Why is it people can't read here... is it the age group I am dealing with?
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Understanding when to fight and when not to .... doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner.

Cut down on your paranoia.

Eternum definitely isn't Salvos and no idea why you'd figure that.

So this is what you get when you post with bias

I just slapped you in the face.

@Ramona McCandless

Considering how I just verbally slapped the crap out of you, that is a very weak Troll reply as far as troll replies go. You should learn a thing or two from Tippa...who is probably the most skillful straw man on these forums. Run a search of his name and do some reading. I always enjoy those Tippa threadnaughts.

Actually you can sod off EP, I'd rather play with Ramona.

Why? do you do wardecs in exchange for forum smack on your main?

FTFY



Also confirming that the glorious combination of tears from the 3 parties involved in the viscous back-and-forth in here is amusing and I fully support it's further progression.

Nice try -1

Guy gets spanked... guy says that it was all a part of his plan all along. The question is, does the rest of the world believe him?

Yeah OP is just a troll, contributing nothing.
Well played, made me reply, wasting my time and doing your growing up in public.
Waste.

Yes, how rude, yes, well watev, buzzoff. Kiss the ring (any of them) and you can drag your sad self away. Triumphantly.

Otherwise I'm going to violate Ramona (after my exams). Not you. With my badger. And get someone to twitch it. Nothng wrong with a good slapping.

In what way am I trolling? Is it not valid to have an opinion, even if that opinion differs from the OP? My experience is different to his and he asked from my views. Why is it wrong to express them?

Specifically in relation to the post you quoted, what's trolling about it? It just states my experience of the ease with which fights can be found in this game.

What's a wardec?

Oh well, it was worth a shot.

I just like the PVP war in forum form.

Eve is not high-school.

The point of this thread my dear, that people like yourself continually miss, is solely focused on people who talk a big game and play like cowards.

God knows you won't if I asked you too. Why don't you come with?

And i respect your choice of cowardice in eve online. Sibyyl has taught me that I should be more understanding of cowards and their cowardly game play.

If you can't afford to lose a destroyer... I can show you how to run level 4 missions in a drake to make more ISK then you are making now. Just shoot me an eve mail anytime.

Ramona McCandless, I am in an NPC corp because I have barely undocked in 8 months. If you would like to wardec me and drive me from the game, I will happily make a new one to play with you. Again, just shoot me an EVE Mail anytime!

Mr. E, I'm at work currently but I should be free in about 8-10 hrs. Not sure if that works for you, but we can work out a schedule. I assume you wanted to fight on TQ? I'd be happy to post details of my defeat after we brawl. It's not likely I'll beat you but it doesn't change my offer.

I offered to fight because I responded in the thread and I think it's only fair that you get a shot at me.

Ramona, Velicita, I don't want your ISK. I like your forum posts enough. And I'm pretty bad at this pew thing so likely Mr. E will have a collection of Sibyyl corpses by the time we finish.

a large gaping vagina where their ballsack otherwise should be.

psh

I totally agree with you.
I however and talking about rolling the dice on a fair bet. Sibyyl actually almost glass cannon ganked my thrasher with only 4 months of skill training. Very not bad if you ask me.

Imagine it as a Braveheart, not as a coward.

ROLLING THE DICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111
READ!!!! D !!! TEXT 111111111111111111111

I agree with you. Though in my case, the "winning" was to be able to learn things I don't know (always worth more to me than any hull). Maybe it's more selfish than anything.

I lose a lot of fights and don't learn a thing (SOV warfare has a lot of that). I don't feel very good about these losses because it literally feels like everything you did ended up in a void somewhere.

Most people here will never tap this power. You will scarcely even know that it exists because of the way that you chose to play the game. My gripe is not with the philosophy of "you should never get yourself into a fight that you are not sure to win" my gripe is that it has become the exclusive philosophy of individuals that shy away from all forms of fair competition. They use this as a justification that leads to trolling , bad sportsmanship and a steadily declining community environment now dominated by troll culture.

I can lose my ship a hundred times, die in a fire horribly and still be superior to the pattern of behavior you, and people like you, have exhibited here in this thread. I can become a carebear that only runs missions in an officer fit battleship, and still be true to who I was and my word. I could give up my PVP career completely and take up mining in a hulk...

And still be superior to a person who talks a massive game, but does nothing when they get slapped in the face.

I hadn't realized until now that you are a -9.8 suicide ganker alt born 3/28/14 of this year. Are you planning on fighting me with another toon?

Courage is a myth, because bravery = stupidity and just allows 20 smarter fighters to wait for you.

I'll me a human being, complete with spine, caring a fishing pole and spear any day. I guess metaphors go both ways yea?

Funny that is not at all what I got from his post.

No thanks, besides the obvious "I vaccinate you" reply, if you want to be a disease and live, as oppose to being a man with things like ethics, honor and friendship and die...then you go and enjoy yourself.
.

Hey, autistic people and sociopaths have to do something for fun, right?

Bravery is a virtue.
You may equate bravery with stupidity, but it is not so.

No the point about mugging is that people do it in Eve because there is no blowback. Being a coward in real life has serious drawbacks. Not so in New Eden.

Again, I don't have an issue with it, I would just like to see the guys who are such flaming cowards to actually acknowledge their own position.

Then again, expecting a tear harvester to try and understand adult concepts like integrity and bravery is a bridge too far. My bad. Should have remembered where I am.
None of you guys like people pointing out how weak and pathetic you are, because if you had to admit it to yourself you just might have a bad day.
But have no fear, you can show everyone your power by ganking a freighter. That will let them know whos boss.

This will be my last off topic philosophical response...

Survival is overrated, there are far worse things than death.

Making fun of them? Why would I ever do a thing like that? Psychopaths and autistic people were [ostensibly] born that way. They just think and behave in patterns that happen to tick society off at times. I'd say EVE is a much better outlet for antisocial behaviour than open society.

Wut?

I think I get where Ramona is coming from. I did not realize that he was in a corp that bears his own name. The poor guy seems to fly stealth bombers and still has 6 losses and no kills. Understandably, someone with that kind of skill in game will be adverse to the idea of fair odds.

Well, Ramona how about this. I can show you a few things like I showed Sibyyl if you want. I can definitely help you improve those survival skills you speak so highly of.

Not the structure, but the underlying idea.

What, to you, is worse than death?

I know that is exactly why you turned against other playing styles, I don't have to think it. You have lost 6 times to 1v1 fights, and could benefit from better understanding of general aggression mechanics.


Edit: Probably should have said "encounters" since you got lul smartbombed by a battleship :P

Umm... it's a little hard to explain in a forum post. But you might like eve better if you had the skill set to PVP and have some success with it. Be it 1v1 or in a fleet.

Well yea... scouting is step one.

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I can take you through low sec in a shuttle and be impervious to attack. I can do the same through most of null, and with a stealth bomber most certainly. You might die if we run into a PL camp, but besides that the universe is mine. But since you think the end game is "Scout and wait for them to dissipate" I guess you will never really know will you?

Maybe you should stop posting in this thread and let people who actually know what they are talking about speak a little.

Well, why not? GD = oral violation. You started it.

You're an enormous coward btw. At least roll a corp so we can play properly.

Although it seems your definition of 'fight' is based upon your ability to set the terms. Which include snivelling in an NPC corp about fairness. Was that a bit harsh? Apologies.

I can tell by your remarks you want to encourage a reasoned discussion with the other snivellers, and skip over everyone else (not inc you in that Syybil, well played). I don't think you even noticed EP quite how Syybil thoroughly shamed you. That might tie into this begging on GD menality for fights, claiming not to be an elitist, and pretty much being an obnoxious berk no-one wants to play with.

Let's try this: Everyone vs Everyone. Come and get it.
Ring any bells?

Now you see... before I might have said something like "I have several locator agents in game and I could come and find you if you like " But that would be off topic. Not to mention pointless because both of you have already bitched out several times in now deleted posts in this thread. The... you call me coward


I prefer to discuss this subject further with the non-trolls currently participating in this discussion. If the ISD will let me... I guess we will find out in a few hours or so.

It's a rude and short label. Some of us are just a bit gobby and/or sarcastic.

Bit of a difference between those who chat and those who squawl I think, or trawl for tears.

But go ahead and report my posts EP. I'll report every single one of yours (I think it was 135 in this thread I checked this morning) which are all either abusive/ranting or just blatant trolling. Works both ways :)